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jacki: i didn't send it to him, just ford. stephanie: we call her sidney leathers, are you really, her news name is jacki sheckner. [ laughter ] stephanie: did you hear that was the latest thing that she would like to have, hate sex with sarah palin? agh! >> bring that back! stephanie: with that visual, here she is, jacki sheckner. jacki: good morning, everybody, happy friday. president obama's got business to take care of before heading off to an eight day vacation. this afternoon, the president's going to sign the student loan bill, a bipartisan compromise designed to roll back interest rates pitched doubled to 6.8% july 1. it will save the average undergrad on interest rate charges now. the bill caps out at 8.25% for

undergrads, and 10.5 for their parents. at a press conference after canceling a meeting with putin in moscow. while russia granting asylum to edward snowden, jay carney indicates there are others. >> president obama likely today to answer questions concerning n.s.a. surveillance concerns after meeting yesterday with tech and civil liberties leaders to talk about government programs. apple c.e.o. tim cook and at&t ceo attended the session. it's been holding a series of meetings with experts and stake holders to talk about ways that the government can try and balance privacy with national security concerns. we are back with more show after

the break. stay with us. this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but

somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right?

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jim wallace did an op ed. >> he believes in the teachings of jesus. stephanie: he speaks quite fluently. >> apparently you don't. [ laughter ] >> you need a little help. stephanie: i don't even know what to call it. >> he doesn't speak aramaic. stephanie: i may do the whole interview now that you've thrown down the gauntlet, why not. >> we need sub titles for the show. stephanie: we have turtle troubles right out of the box. poor mitch mccann necessarily. >> did someone take pictures of

him having sex? stephanie: by the way, that turtle sex sound is stuck in people's -- yesterday, a guy said it sounds like that when he turns his sink on. >> somewhat analogous. the plumbing doesn't work. stephanie: mitch mcconnell's campaign manager caught on tape saying between you and me, i'm holding my nose for two years. mitch mcconnell said campaign manager, because what we're doing here is going to be a big benefit to and in 2016. rand paul is becoming the damian isn't he, the omen, it's all for you, red. >> by the omen three, i think sam neil played damian as an adult and ran for president. stephanie: chris matthews, did

he see? i've been doing this for a long time, they're going to nominate rand paul. mark it down. >> it's either that or dick cheney. stephanie: rand paul has a lot of positions that the gop leadership just doesn't like. >> right. >> i don't think there's any chance they're going to let him get the nomination. stephanie: you know why i want it to happen. >> why? >> stephanie: because our friend kathleen was here this week and she said [ coughing] stephanie: she played in kentucky and met him and talked to him personally and said he is shorter than she is and she's like 51. >> we need an elf. stephanie: he would have minivans. >> maybe he's a habit. stephanie: he would have to hire the mini tribute bands. ♪ ♪ stephanie: what?

stephanie: when she told me that, i was picturedding, because if that happens, you know, president obama would have to shake his hand. he'd be at kneecap level. >> hi, what are you doing up there? hey! stephanie: we frequently kill people on the show, because we don't know. is he still alive? i think he is. i'm thinking of cabinet, because herve villachez no longer with us. >> billy party no longer with us. >> i think the last of the munchkins passed away. >> we have still two more left. stephanie: all right. we got a munchkin down, but we still got the e.p.a., and their

elder statesmen. >> and the travel loss city gnome. am i going to die? no, i have not. stephanie: ok, the story, how did i get off on this? oh, because mitch mcconnell's campaign manager caught on tape saying he is holding his nose. justice released yesterday, former and powell campaign chair denied knowledge that the campaign bribed the state senator for his enforcement in the 2012 primaries and said he was currently holding his knows as mitch mcconnell's campaign manager until he can work for rand paul. >> he can't be holding mitch mcconnell's knows. >> he couldn't reach it anyway. >> what are you doing up there?

stephanie: i picture him knocking on the tree to see how the cookies are coming. >> he carries along a note tread because he's worried about being trod upon. of course some like that. [ knocking ] stephanie: how are those pecan sandies coming. >> the doctors told senator mcconnell that he had a kidney stone. he refused to pass it. >> i'm asking him to be a man, run on his record. stephanie: be a man! ♪ ♪ >> what the people need right now... ♪ ♪

>> that's our top political priority over the next two years is to deny president obama a second term. there are those of us who spend a lot of time on this issue. ♪ stephanie: thank you. oh, boy, this is from the tea bagging, this is not from his democratic opponent. this is from his -- what's his name? bevin. offered a stern challenge to the incumbent, be a man. tea party challenger said this is a battle reelecting someone just for the sake of accepting him back to washington.

oh, snap. >> oh, no, he didn't. stephanie: oh, yes. >> oh, yes, he did. stephanie: talk to the shell. >> them's fighting words. hold still while i try to take a punch. it's coming. it's coming. look out, here it comes. here it comes. stephanie: you have to be a really bad fighter to get cold cocked by mitch mcconnell. it takes a week to get there. >> avoid smearing his opponents or democratic challenger, instead offer a concrete example to something he's proud of running on and asking him to be a man. >> i challenge you to a duel. hold still, here it comes. >> he doesn't have an index finger with which to paul trigger in a dual. stephanie: no, he does not. we have lots to get to. we have russia. russia is by the way,

disappointed, the president disappointed in russia, russia now also. >> disappointed. stephanie: disappointed in us. rocky mountain mike has helped. as a mayor, we have a lot of right wing callers. >> we have. stephanie: yes. yesterday, jacki explained what was happening with the capitol hill exemption. >> we flushed a lot of tropical storm out from the bridges. stephanie: you can tell he was calling with the talking points that jacki just refuted. stephanie: maybe jacki could tell me, if it's not good enough for the people of capitol hill. >> they are hitting republican town hauls, telling them to shut down the government, or we're not going to vote for you. >> good, good plan. >> we have audio of that later on, people like aaron shock. >> shock.

it's awesome. shocking. stephanie: has the stunning steve king had further thoughts on climate change. we can't really measure the sea level. it won't stay still. >> it goes up, it goes down, it goes up, it goes down. stephanie: it doesn't stay at one level. >> which way did it go? which way did it go? >> i figure him with a tape measurer at the beach. whoa, that was a different level. >> now it's higher again. stephanie: whoops! [ laughter ] [ applause ] stephanie: it keeps doing it. why won't the sea stay still? >> rocky mountain mike, please help us, won't you? >> we all live our lives and take our ability to understand reality for granted. meet skeeter. not to text and drive, skeeter

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>> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> with a distinctly satirical point of view. if you believe in state's rights but still believe in the drug war, you must be high. >> only on current tv.

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>> so strange. stephanie: i am old timey like that. what a great case for the bible, evangelical christians have joined the fight to pass common sense reform. jim wallis wrote this, no wonder it made sense. >> you said book him now. now! stephanie: i did. i did indeed. by the way, speaking of bookings, we frequently have hilarious stories, here is our latest one. we got this yesterday, right? >> we got a pitch yesterday from the ron paul people. apparently he's going to start. stephanie: a channel! the ron paul channel. crazy captain liberty. i was like ok. >> he's been on with us before.

it's been pleasant, we said yes, we would love to. stephanie: he was parole unacquainted with me. once people become acquainted, they're like oh, no. >> oh, no. >> he pitched us, we said yes. stephanie: i was on the defense about it, you're like yes, yes, that makes -- holy crap, what? >> what? no fire department? what? and so we said yes, we would love to have the former congressman on. stephanie: i would have been very poll light, probably talked to him about the things he said that made accepts. not the stuff in his newsletters and stuff like that. that would be rude. >> we got a tersely worded note back saying he will not be appearing on your show, thanks for your interest. but we didn't reach out to you, you reached out to us. >> he fired himself.

>> what were you thinking, you're an idiot. so i tweeted out that information yesterday and called him a coward. stephanie: they probably wanted to say see, liberal shows won't have him on. we said ok, callyourbluff.com. >> who's the fraidy-cat now? stephanie: i'm sure now we'll get that booking. >> right, after this? stephanie: once we don't get a booking, we just stomp on them and make sure there's absolutely no chance it can happen. let's just pee on the grave of that booking. >> i can think of one. stephanie: shh. he went all fill in the blank on our ass. >> he's a lovely senator. stephanie: see, now it narrows it down in such a way as it makes it awkward.

>> never coming on this program, come on. stephanie: like many relationships, i'm sometime not sure what i did. so many women that can share that conversation with her. was it something i -- and i was sober. >> we shared this story before. stephanie: no! no! don't say it. >> are you sure? ok. stephanie: yes, you probably have blurted it out before. >> that was ill advised. stephanie: yes. i think it was just the general tone that she perhaps did not enjoy and found confusing. >> what is all this 11ty? levity. >> ♪ magic wand stephanie: this is from joanne

wurley. [ singing ] >> lily tomlin said can i give joanne your email address. i said can you? my happy place. [ singing ] >> they're doing an animal event. i don't think i can do it, which is very sad, because i'm out of town that weekend. they're doing a best in show fundraiser and fred willard is doing it. i'd have to make a video. ed begely, jr. i told you i did a photo shoot for the advocate with max and fred. i'm going to get right wing hate male about bestiality now.

best-iality. stephanie: you guys know best. >> you were wearing a lace dress? stephanie: no. >> that one? stephanie: no, i have a new color. it's teal, lovely teal blue, thank you for asking. >> you went shopping! >> what pashmini goes with that. stephanie: i was wearing my dog. they can be used as a dog. >> did you get masted by his tail? stephanie: yes, because i'm just that old. reverend jim wallis joins us next on the "stephanie miller show."

♪ ♪ >> we need a laugh frack. stephanie: 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2, toll free from anywhere. reading my old timey newspaper yesterday, i'm like wow, it's not often you read an op ed that makes this much time. really? the bible's case for immigration

reform, showing compassion to foreigners and strangers is morality. i thought there's exactly why it made sense, written by jim wallace. joins us now, good morning, reverend. >> good morning, how are you? stephanie: i am good. what a great piece you wrote in the l.a. times. >> oh, glad you liked it. stephanie: you always talk such good -- just good, common sense about this kind of stuff in a way that i think is so understandable about people, about immigration reform for all the arguments. you just say it's the right thing to do. >> certainly for 11 million families and all of us, it really is the right thing and the best thing to do, yeah. stephanie: some say it will take a miracle for congress to pass reform. that miracle may be in the making, helped along by christians who want to turn their faith into action. you visited with 300 evangelical christians from 27 states,

mostly republican representatives on capitol hill. tell us about that. >> well, here's a miracle. paul ryan called me. >> really? ♪ magic wand >> he said i want to help with immigration reform. i said great, would you meet with us? we had a lovely meeting. we disagree on other things, and that's fine, but on this one, he really wants to provide some leadership here, and to be honest, you know, what he said was you have the grassroots movement. we've never had this immigration bill before. the grassroots movement that impacts, influences the political right and republicans, so that's a new factor in all of this, and so my hope always is we can find things that are moral issues that can cross political boundaries and bring people together as you say to do the right thing. this is a clear example of that.

>> you say in the piece that republicans you spoke to said you guys represent a new factor in this debate. >> yeah, the white house says that, republicans say that, democrats, we met with the leaders, democrats and republicans in the white house. august resist is happening right now. remember what happened to health care around the august recess before, tea party, right wing groups take over town meetings. we're having town hauls, round tables, sometimes with the member of congress. this time, we are saying immigrants are my friends, my brothers and sisters, i know their children. what you say about them is not true, so we're going to have people in all these conversations to prevent the right from taking over the august recess town meetings and kill immigration reform, which

they're going to do. stephanie: no one speaks bible like you do. you say it is the biblical call to welcome the stranger. congress needs to pass immigration reform because it is the morally right thing to do. you want to say god never ordains particular pieces of legislation. i'm just saying, i think he's a democratic. you say the principles put forward are the right ones. you say it will bring 11 million people out of the shadows, reunite families, all goals that are consistent with biblical values. >> well, what happened here was there's a difference in reading your bible and just thumping it. we've had a lot of bible thumping. when you read it and it literally says in matthew 25, jesus says how you treat the stranger is how you treat me. all these evangelicals have realized that how they treat

immigrants, including 11 million undocumented people is how we treat christ himself. now that was a converting moment for an awful lot of people. the other thing that converted people was now immigrants are parts of our congregations. they're sitting next to us in the p.o.w.s and that changed your view. you get to know who they are, and what their lives are like and the kids and families, stereotypes disappear. so now, their kids are our kids. they're part of us, not them, and so those things have converted evangelicals and they're telling their stories now to the congress. i saw this pastor saying mr. congressman, do you understand i'm with my people in my neighborhood. when hurt, they can't go to the e.r. because they'll be deported. they crawl off in the corner hoping they won't die. women are being raped and can't call the police. congress, you've got to help my

parishioners. stephanie: reverend, did you hear about this teenager that was tasered and died, but they were saying the reason he was, you know, doing graffiti. they say the reason he ran, he was scared about his immigration status. >> if you go to the e.r. and you've had an injury that could be associated with crime, they will call the police, and you'll be deported. so literally, people crawl off in the corner and hope they don't die. so patches is saying this isn't acceptable to us. people are in the shadows, lives shattered, families divided. as you say, family values, if we care about family values and kids are losing their parents, this is the family values. stephanie: as you know, reverend, it was sort of spoken of in such crass political terms i think right after the election, wasn't it, that republicans saying we lost the hispanic vote, we've got to pass immigration reform. at some point, i said well, i don't care what reason they do

it as long as they do the right thing. you point out when three of the largest republican constituencies, it's hard to argue against it. >> we're afraid of being primaried by the tea party, by the right wing. we're saying in those places, in those districts, appealing to the hispanic vote doesn't help. in those districts, talking about how the majority of the

american people are for this, doesn't help. you've got their say. i'm hearing them say i'm afraid. i'm afraid of taking a risk. they actually tell me i'm for this, i'd like to vote for this, but if i vote for this, i may lose my seat. that's where i say we've got to have political fear replaced by personal faith. if you say you are a christian as many of them do. stephanie: right, these are the same people who trumpet their religious convictions as guiding their decisions in public life. >> so what i'm saying is act upon the basis of your faith here. either vote for this or give us a faith reason why you can't. don't just talk politics or racial fears. let's do the right thing here. this is what, risk, politicians

hate to take a risk. sometimes faith helps you to take a risk in your personal life and vocational life and maybe your political life. there's political factors here. the republicans won't have a future if they lose the hispanic vote forever, but if there are deeper issues, too, doing the right thing and having personal faith replace political fear, that's the articles we are going to make for people. stephanie: god's abiding concern for foreigners and travelers is obvious through scripture. i had not read this one, when a foreigner resides among you, do not mistreat them. love them as yourself. amazing how you don't hear republicans reciting that particular verse very much. >> the first time i was with republicans years ago and i said well, i guess you haven't read

lehave it cuss. they said where is that text. when you talk about don't just thump the bible, read the bible. this is where i'm trying to say, let's talk about the common good, not just about politics here. how do you deal with the common good? you're right. it's going to be an uphill battle. it's going to be a fight. there are tremendous forces against this, but we have business leaders, we have law enforcement and we have faith, bibles, badges and business, and they ought to do the right thing and pass this. i am still hoping, faith gives you hope, and i'm still hoping that in fact we'll witness, and if we do, if we do, i've heard people in the white house say and republicans and democrats, if we do the right thing on this in a bipartisan, positive way, the country will be amazed that

they did something right, anything. stephanie: right. >> and could help us even affect other issues. wouldn't that be a wonderful thing. stephanie: you challenged them with the book of james. it's time for christians to stand up and support it or explain why they don't. we will see the miracle with he need. god bless you sir, first of all. i really feel like even people that disagree on some other things, i think can hear you in a way that they don't hear other people. i really thank you for that. >> stephanie, i loved hearing you read the bible. stephanie: you're like my bible cliff notes. only when you feed it to me. you're my biblical mama bird. >> bless you. stephanie: thank you, reverend

wallis. we'll talk to you really seen. stephanie: he's my bible mama bird, he regurgitates little bits to me. >> like biblical worms. stephanie: right back on the "stephanie miller show."

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stephanie: madonna. >> breaking it down. stephanie: 50 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number, mark in chicago, hello, mark. caller: good morning. i'm puzzled about all this hoopla for immigration. we still have a 15% unemployment rate in the country, if you want to be honest about it. stephanie: it's actually seven something. caller: that's the way they count it. at some point you're not counting. stephanie: sure, double it, just to be safe. caller: you know, well, let me ask you, what do you think is a decent pay rate for construction or lawn work per hour? stephanie: i think that's above my pay grade, that question. caller: would $20 an hour be a fair rate? stephanie: it's hard -- >> it depends on the market situations. caller: ok. i mean, because i see where

people want to get stuff for free or cheap, that's human nature, but there are consequences. if you're going to throw out people when they get sick or get over age 40, you know, is that. >> so you're letting people die. caller: right. >> that's what you're saying. caller: no, i'm saying people that are already here, if you fire them because they're over age 40. stephanie: who's firing people because they're over age 40. caller: that's rampant. anybody who's been in the job market knows that there's ageism in hiring right now. >> the three of us in this room would all be out of here. stephanie: all right. that was too confusing a conversation for friday. i was going to say, multiple. >> somebody get my walker. i'm going to hit you over the head with it, sonny, because i'm over 40.% i'm over 40. stephanie: who wants a maggot

filled sandwich from the airport? >> ooh! stephanie: my friend flew from the airport and said. >> i remember sitting on the floor in atlanta. go to bo jangles. stephanie: i'm sure there is a maggot-free sandwich. you want to go without maggots? it's going cost you. a sandwich last wednesday in atlanta heartfields. he noticed something moving on the bread. right away, you know something... >> that's not supposed to happen. stephanie: it had begun to turn. >> if it's moving, you shouldn't eat it.

stephanie: he said i was looking at what i thought was parmesan, then it started to move. >> did he take a bite out of it already? stephanie: i don't think so. he said the sandwich bought in terminal b. >> avoid terminal b., whatever you do. stephanie: was full of maggots. he kept the sandwich intact throughout his business trip to miami. how would you like to be sitting next to that guy. oh, you dropped one of your -- [ screaming ] >> i'd rather eat a chick-fil-a. stephanie: how do you keep the maggots. >> intact? stephanie: right. >> put it in a tupperware. >> don't they hatch into flies? >> your little plastic box is

buzzing. >> because they turned to flies. stephanie: is that your phone on vibrate? it's your maggots. the cafe said the manager was not available. this is regarding? oh, maggots in your sandwich? yes. no one is available to discuss that with you. is this a pressing concern? the restaurants president responded to an inquiry from a t.v. station and released a statement saying the maggots could not have been generated on our premises and were instead from a vendor that provided bread to the cafe. >> right. >> whatever. stephanie: it could be. it could happen. you don't intentionally generate maggots on our premises. if they happen to be here. >> hey, don't look at me. stephanie: i don't know if that would be considered in the bible verse that reverend wallis quoted about strangers in the

land. technically, they were visitors. in a related story, which we already covered, reminds use it could be worse. remember the fly that landed on the woman's ear and laid flesh eating maggots in her head? yeah. so, it could have been worse. so that happens. all right. all right, i mentioned russia is also disappointed with us. obama's disappointed in russia. >> disappointed. stephanie: there's nothing that hurts worse than when the kremlins disappointed in you. the kremlin said it is. >> disappointed. stephanie: the u.s. canceled bilateral talks after russia granted asylum to edward snowden. please, joan is in our homophobia. why not? as we know, the president, the decision to cancel the summit

comes one day after the president appeared on the tonight show in which he condemned the newly enacted gay law in russia. thank you, mr. president. i love this one. the russian sports. ister tells reporters to calm down about the olympics and the anti gay law. he told them to relax. >> relax, simmer down. he said their private lives were safe. as long as you keep your pie holes shut about it. all your holes, keep everything

shut. i want to ask you to calm down. we have a constitution that guarantees all citizens a private life. it's to ban the promotion of non-traditional relations among the young generation. >> i think they should ban wrestling then, because that's pretty gay new right, ice skating. rhythmistic gymnastics. organizations should be relaxed. stephanie: oh, sure. >> will they ban ladies golf? stephanie: that would be funny if he said there will be nellies.

♪ theme stephanie: all right, current t.v. land, our number two, sexy liberal john fugelsang is coming up. you go to more weddings, but a woman has been charged with stealing money from wedding cards and trying to hide it in her bra. jacki: that's awful on so many levels. stephanie: there's much better things to stuff your bras with.

jacki: checks are awfully lumpy, no? stephanie: jacki sheckner, august 9, 2013, checks are lumpy. jacki: so's cash. stephanie: i have no idea why i brought that up, just because you go to a lot of weddings. here she is, the unlumpy jacki sheckner. jacki: senator mitch mcconnell's campaign manager doesn't seem fond of his own candidate. jesse benton told a former ron paul campaign aide that he was holding his nose to get through the next two years to set up rand paul in 2016. mcconnell's trying to make light of the snub, posing for a photo posed on facebook of the two men posing together. like if you agree nothing smells worse than obamacare.

the whole thing is such a big miss on so many levels. republicans seem to think what they said in private is erased by what they said in public. he is declaring the aide is 100% committed to mcconnell and serving on his campaign is one of the great honors of his life. benton has worked for ron paul's campaigns and is married to ron paul's granddaughter. >> the international olympic committee wants more information from the russian government regarding its new anti gay legislation opinioned how the athletes will be treated in sochi. they want a guarantee of freedom of expression and says there are too many uncertainties to feel confident that human rights will be protected. russian sports minister said while russia will respect the private lives of athletes, it will not back down under

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homophobey. caller: short men try to tell you how tall they are and lie. his father is 5'11", you see them side by side. ron paul is 5'10" and rand paul is at least two or three inches shorter than him. stephanie: maybe because his suits were so big that he looked so small, that tiny cartoon head. caller: marco rubio says he's 5'10", which means he's no big are than 5'9". if you google women's height, hillary clinton's 5'7", sarah palin is 5'5". tall men comes or immediately if you google it, short men, you have to research and do comparables to figure it out. stephanie: haven't they done studies, a huge percentage of the time, the taller candidate wins for the presidency, right? caller: quoting a with it like

ann coulter, she basically said, rand paul and morning co rubio have no chance to become president, because they're too darn short. this may be the only time in my life i agree with her. stephanie: it could be extra landslidey. >> she's eight feet tall. jacki: i'll take a tall woman over a short man anytime. stephanie: he's too small to carry that many. caller: steph, you would take a tall woman over a short man, too, right? stephanie: whatever kind of woman. >> really? stephanie: i kid. i kid, of course. ok, by the by, the president talking about terror. >> here's what those who would cowardly attack our civilians phone get. the united states is never going to retreat from the world. we don't get terrorized.

stephanie: new york times searching the contents of vast amounts of america's emails and text communications in and out of the country hunting for people who mention information about foreigners under surveillance. while it has long known that the agency conducts searches, this reveals more about the scale of secret operations. government officials say it was authorized by the fisa amendment act which congress approved eavesdropping as long as it was a non-citizen abroad. it gets a little in the weeds for me. >> i know.

stephanie: i mean, that's what's -- as we've said, jim, it's not that i don't have concerns about it, i think that's why it's not that understandable for the normal person to go i don't know what degree they're doing what exactly. >> exactly, and that's what's so troubling about it, that it's just a broad, you know, drag net. stephanie: yeah. you know what will make us feel better? maggot on fax. hi, bob. that would be a stretch to call any fax about maggots fun, but go ahead. >> they are very handy for eating dead flesh. you have a piece of flesh that's dead on your body that's rotting, doctors, american doctors, even put maggots on them, because all the maggots want to eat is dead flesh. they will leave the good flesh alone. stephanie: if you need to lose weight, watching maggots eat

dead flesh. caller: they won't eat fat. stephanie: but you would probably stop eating, because you would be so grossed out by the maggots on you eating dead flesh. caller: they actually save lives. stephanie: ok, all right, that is a fun fact. pardon me, game? >> it was in gradtior. they put maggots on the skin to eat the neck rottic flesh away to keep him from getting began green. stephanie: you're disgusting. are we still using those in our health care system? guess what's back, the health care town hauls. the screamy, shouty ones. >> but this time, it's represents getting tea bagged by tea baggers. it's not democrats. stephanie: this guy, we talked about this yesterday, robin pittinger, from north carolina, it seems any h.i.v. of

reasonableness. whiff of reasonableness. here he is in a town hall. >> will you vote to defund obamacare, yes, no? i want yes or no. >> no. >> yes or no! no thank you. don't think! stephanie: that sums up the theory of the republican party today. [ screaming ] stephanie: we only want yes or

no. wow! ok. so he probably and i think he did go on to try to explain that shutting down the government will not defund obamacare, a. all right, representative tom cole. >> you need to represent us, and we're tired of having to come back on this again and again. >> first of all, do i want to defund obamacare? absolutely. i voted against it. i voted 40 times to repeal. it now, the question is do you want to shut down the government if you think that will achieve it. >> well, that almost made sense. stephanie: right, that's the problem. >> right. stephanie: any whiff of reasonableness just is not playing. >> there was a town hall in maryland yesterday where tea partyers said we're dying out here because you guys are being nice guys. huh? what? stephanie: we're dying because we -- >> have obamacare. stephanie: because we now have access to affordable health

care. >> it's killing us. stephanie: affordable health care is killing us! stop it. >> we're losing the country, i want to see more defiance. [ screaming ] stephanie: thank you, jim. all right, we have more, town hall goodness. it gets worse and worse. 17 minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter).

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stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it. 21 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2 the phone number. christopher in new jersey, hello. caller: how are you doing? stephanie: good. caller: i have a question about obamacare. stephanie: ok. jacki: i am working part time. i'm not union, he is union. stephanie: wait, slow down, say that one more time. caller: i'm working 29 hours a week. stephanie: right. caller: and they're not giving me over 29 hours. $3,000 for obamacare and my friend's working 30 something hours a week and they're giving it to him, because he's in the

union, he can get that 30 something hours. i'm confused about the whole obamacare new that's why unions are good generally for getting you benefits. caller: so i'm not in the union, i cannot get that obamacare? stephanie: well, i mean, that has to do with your employer being kind of a douche, frankly. caller: exactly. stephanie: that's not to do with necessarily with unions, it's that some employers look if you want to get and retain good employees, you want to do good things by them. jacki talks about this, blaming obamacare that employers are either being douchey or insurance companies being douchey. >> which is why we need single pair. stephanie: the health care town halls back. representative from oklahoma. >> let me talk to you about the consequences of what a complete

government shutdown is. that means your troops in the field don't get paid. i'm sorry, just because you shut down the government doesn't mean the other side has to give in, doesn't mean that the senate has to pass the legislation. i don't want to be, you know, disingenuous and tell you i think shutting down the government's a good idea, because i don't. i'd be dishonest if i told you i thought it would be worse. >> i just got an i.m. from jacki sheckner about that previous caller. she said tell the caller, he'll be able to go out in the exchange and buy insurance on his own if his employer doesn't offer an option. stephanie: thank you, jacki, good point. >> that's competition between the companies. stephanie: did you hear the comments in the middle of what tom cole was just saying. you speak tea bagger town hall. [ screaming ]

stephanie: let's hear that again. here he is. >> let me talk to you about the consequences of what a complete government shut down is. number one, that means your troops in the field don't get paid. [ screaming ] >> i'm sorry. [ screaming ] stephanie: i think they didn't get that -- what were they booing exactly? they were booing that would be bad, but he was trying to explain that's what a government shutdown would do. they hit the skeeter troop button. troops! good! everybody's playing again, the gay soldier from the town hall, that's a perfect example. it was so unbelievable. you're talking about he's an active duty soldier, actively getting shot at for his country and he said gay and the

republicans at the town hall went... [ screaming ] >> they were all ready to applaud him. you're what? stephanie: they're like gay! [ screaming ] stephanie: it's like jumbo shrimp in their head. gay? troop? >> no can be? mongo no like. stephanie: is that a troll made of chocolate? >> what? stephanie: republican of illinois. >> if the budget went away tomorrow, if the government shut down tomorrow, it would not necessarily stop the affordable

care act from being implemented. without paying social security and how many weeks would you go without paying the troops and having a young lady walk into my office whose husband is in afghanistan, cannot pay her mortgage, because i'm shutting the government down because i don't like the health care law, i've got to bet on the fact that the president is going to cry uncle and repeal his own bill. i am not convinced yet that that's a hostage that we should take in this fight. >> mmm hmm. stephanie: he starts to make sense. >> he the in on the tea party wave and got to d.c. and realized right into reality, oh! ok! stephanie: i realize i'm representing a bunch of skeeters. please help us, skeeter. >> we all live our lives and take our ability to understand reality for granted. meet skeeter. >> he's a liar.

>> while the rest of us are told not to text and drive, skeeter struggles with basic motor skills. >> you know who else had background checks? hitler. >> many people thought a cure was near in 2012, but the skeeters of the world remind us we have so far to go. do your part now by texting read a freaking book or any yahoo news article. together, we can help the skeeters of the world find their way out of their bubble and into our solar system. help save a skeeter from hurting himself. stephanie: thank you for updating al gore has a big house and al jazeera has a big house. alan, you're on the "stephanie miller show." hello. caller: i was just kind of looking around and found your

station. about how many years ago you changed to x.m. radio and you and your panel. stephanie: hello, panel. caller: i'm a republican and the reason i'm republican so that douche bags can say that. >> we say it all the time. caller: the governor won't kick me off the voting rolls. the reason i am calling you, i'm 63. i'm nervous a little bit. stephanie: that's ok. caller: i was just diagnosed with cancer, and because i had the security of obamacare, my wife and i will not lose our house. stephanie: wow. wow. alan, hang on, i want to hear a little more about that. 29 minutes after the hour. we're right back on the "stephanie miller show."

we're at bed supperclub in bangkok, thailand. they call it bed supperclub because there's two different areas. one side is a place where you can go in and have dinner and drinks and they actually have beds filling the whole room. both rooms are different music. after dinner here this also becomes-- it opens up to be a bar and dancing along with the nightclub on the other side. so you can go from side to side. >>usually they have different styles of music later. maybe one side is electro house, the other side might be deep, jazzy house. one side, house on the other. it's nice because people can come and they have a choice as to which room they want to hang out in. i think the architectural design is the most unique thing about it.

so i describe it as a slightly squashed cylindrical spaceship. it can never take off because there's too many people in it. >>it's world renowned for its design, it's world renowned for its concept, it's world renowned for everything about it, the food, the clientele. our chef is originally from new zealand. if you have a favorite dish here don't come here for the favorite dish because the menu changes every two weeks. the menu is never the same. >>i had a goat cheese appetizer and then my entrée was eggplant with salt and peppered tofu. delicious. >>it's been here almost five years in september. and you know for a restaurant/night club, especially in thailand, in bangkok because bangkok is very something's in for a minute and then it's out. bed supperclub has stayed the whole time and it hasn't gone out of style yet. it hasn't gone out of favor.

it hasn't gone out of being chic. it's so unique that everybody just continues to come here. this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i am given to doing anyway. staying in tough with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them, right? vo: the war room monday to thursday at 6 eastern

♪ stephanie: 34 minutes after the hour, 1-800-steph-1-2, toll free from anywhere. we were talking to alan before the break. you're still a republican? caller: on paper. stephanie: on paper, you are, ok. you were telling us that obamacare, you were just diagnosed with cancer, which i'm sorry to hear. caller: luckily, i think i'm kind of a baby, so i caught it early. stephanie: that's awesome. caller: i'll be going in for

surgery in a week or so. my wife and i were thinking that without obamacare, at our age, we would have lost our house paying for this, and i would have died, and or died. stephanie: yep. that's what we have to hope, alan is that more and more people start to see this, the political rhetoric and fear mongering will die down, right? caller: and listening to these people in these town meetings, they don't sound like they're the most intelligent people. they sound like regular americans who got normal educations and work hard and don't understand that obamacare will save their lives. stephanie: well, that's the thing. when you have people screaming keep your government hands off our medicare, they cease to understand how our government works. >> death panels. stephanie: i appreciate your

story, thanks very much. best of luck, our thoughts and prayers are with you in your surgery, ok? caller: thank you very much. stephanie: that right there is what republicans are most afraid of. joe in illinois, you're on the "stephanie miller show," hello, joe. caller: hey, how are you doing? stephanie: good, go ahead. caller: just real quick, the caller who called in about the working part time over in jersey, this is nothing new. i've been telling private health insurance for 15 years, companies have been doing this forever new yeah, trying to keep you with a certain amount of hours so they don't have to give you health care. caller: right. this is not started under obamacare. 30% of my clients are people who work 24 hours. every state has their regulations. if you work over 25, you are considered full time, under 29, everything's different. so many companies have always been doing this. it's nothing new. then the -- i was listening to this guy on the daily cove over

in north carolina. he was getting ripped apart during a town hall meeting. the republican argument, let's buy insurance through state line. that's a great idea. my question is if i live in illinois and buy insurance from plan b., who regulates it? the federal government, which is something republicans don't usually like. it's out of the state's hands. if i was in illinois and had a problem with my insurance for state b., illinois' not going to help me. the only one who can regulate it is the federal government. it's just amazing. i was talking about a big time republican of mine over in wisconsin. i said what is it against obamacare that you hate? he said we stake our reputations against it and he said, you know, we're not concerned that the country's going to hate it. we're concerned the country's

going to love it. it's a great plan. we know it's going to work. stephanie: there's an honest republican. caller: he said after three years of this being in place and people realize that, you know, premiums are down, coverage is up, people are going to love it and realize we've been selling a bill of goods for years. we know it's going to work, it's our plan, we designed it. stephanie: was he drunk at the time that he admitted this? caller: no, he's a real good friend, a family friend of mine. he's worked for the republican party in wisconsin for about the last 10-15 years or so, and i said 40 times you guys have repealed this thing. what is it with obamacare, you guys are willing to shut down the government, but obamacare, you can't let that. if you're a republican and you think obamacare's going to fail, you'd be thrilled to let this go into effect. you could say we told you so. what is it about obamacare? stephanie: we just talked about

yesterday, that john boehner tweeted that ohioans costs are going to go up and in his tweet is a link saying the opposite. this is the leader of republicans. caller: it's amazing. once people realize that, you know, the lies, there's no death panels, all this other garbage they've been selling the world for the last three years, once people realize that it's all a bunch of bull, people are going to like it and it's going to kill the republicans, because they're not going to have anything to stand on that. stephanie: that last caller we had says it all. i'm a republican, obamacare just literally saved my life. my wife and i would have lost our house if this happened before. that's what they are most terrified of. there it was. >> also, jacki just i.m.ed me

and said we don't want to buy insurance across state lines because insurers could take advantage of loose regulation states. stephanie: i knew there was a reason. it was stuck in my brain somewhere. stephanie: it comes out here. i'm the dopey news anchor. the other thing they are most terrified of is hillary clinton movies. >> i'd put a hillary clinton movie against a cruz movie anytime. stephanie: the end. >> that means he can't be president. >> but he's from the americany part of canada. stephanie: if they do a rand paul movie, who would play him? billy barty's gone.

>> peter dinklich. >> this is why this mini series is a total nightmare for nbc news. people see nbc news and they think well, they can't be that separate. stephanie: for god's sakes. people are not that dopey, chuck todd, really? >> >> they are. stephanie: as everyone knows in the world, there are a lot of warts on the whole clinton story. why do they just assume oh, this is going to be, you know. >> i think it's a bad idea all around for both sides. stephanie: i don't. >> the question is are you going to get a fair shake. it's a reasonable question for republicans to ask. stephanie: i am on record as saying lets go, bring it with the rand paul movie. rand paul mini series. [ applause ] >> how did he grow that hair?

stephanie: right, game show, what the hell is on rand paul's head. >> his hair is made of test tube meat. stephanie: really? i think it is. it's not been perfected yet. >> it's not suitable for human consumption. stephanie: right. it's not edible yet, but they're working on it. it's hair burger. >> really? really? stephanie: all right. is it a burgers or a hair piece? who can tell? >> and it tastes like ground up octopus. stephanie: james in arizona, you're on the "stephanie miller show." hello. caller: hello, hi, steph. stephanie: hi. caller: i love your show. stephanie: thank you. caller: i'm a black conservative. stephanie: good morning there. caller: i love dairy, also. stephanie: who doesn't? go ahead. caller: howard dean said a month

ago that what will happen is these panels, the so-called death panels willower the cost of reimbursement. when you lower the cost of reimbursement, doctors will quit performing those procedures, thus people will get sicker and everything. i know he said it, because i heard it in his voice. stephanie: you heard it in his voice. caller: i mean i heard his voice say it. dr. dean said it, and he's a democratic and not a republican. stephanie: yes, i doubt that's what he said. i'm sure jacki can -- caller: check it out. stephanie: ok, all right, ok. >> all right, we're convinced, death panels are real. stephanie: i guess so, because howard dean said it, so that must be true. all right then. hey, speaking of health care, the president called george w. to wish him well after his -- >> extent. stephanie: procedure. right. he called george bush to wish

him with my as he recovers from his procedure for a blocked artery. they spoke on wednesday. >> good. stephanie: that was not a prank call. >> no, it was heartfelt. stephanie: exactly. kevin from d.c., you're on the "stephanie miller show." caller: good morning, stephanie. [ laughter ] caller: i went away from the t.v. for a moment and i was told that someone who shares my heritage was talking about certain things, and i don't know what to say. it made me laugh like hillary clinton. i did the ha ha ha laugh. stephanie: yes. caller: for the first time, i think in my nearly a decade with you guys, i'm speechless. >> are you saying that guy was a

turkey? caller: yes. ok, if i can get my. stephanie: turkey? caller: selfishly, it's a good thing, not only considering he played the clips at the town hall and tea party monster is coming back to bite these people. if they've got to worry about being tea bagged at every little thing and elect a representative like the one that's been defeated, like the christine person, i'm not a which person. stephanie: o'donnell, right. caller: is that a good thing to have the psychos get elected, have the ones that, you know, are insane like this and we can finally, you know, finally get things done? i'm sorry that we let these psychos in in 2010, but maybe it's a good thing. stephanie: that's the difference is like yeah, i suppose we should root for what's bad for the republican party, but it

would also be bad for america to shut the government down. it would be a complete disaster for them, but meanwhile, that's the difference. we're not willing to burn the village to save it. mason in ohio, you're on the "stephanie miller show," hi, mason. caller: good morning, sunshine. stephanie: good morning, moonshine. caller: i know it's a friday, woot. i am in ohio and have just a slew of crazies that represent me right now, boehner being one of them. he is dead wrong. as soon as obamacare kicked in this year, i went from $150 a med costs a month to zero. all my girly doctors are taken care of at zero cost, which helps me out a lot. i work for an international company for 11 years, and had really good benefits at the time. unfortunately, i had a major back injury that put me out of work, and it was an utter nightmare, because the medical

bills are just pushing us to bankruptcy, so it really kills me that people all across this nation are having to go into bankruptcy because they can't afford to be healthy and live, because they need doctor's points. a great example is my brother-in-law is diabetic and out of work, because he got laid off due to the work nonsense happening. he got a cut on his foot. wasn't able to go to the doctor to get it taken care of. he used peroxide to keep it clean. two months later, it could infected, he lost two of his toes and half of his foot and will never be able to walk the same again because of it. you know, my best friend's little girl suffers from asthma and struggles to pay $250 for one inhaler a month. stephanie: yeah. caller: sometimes he has to wait to even get that. you know, the kicker of it all is that if republicans were smart, which no one has ever claimed they're smart in these

days, but if they were, they would embrace obamacare and work towards fixing what's broken so they can prove to the american people that they really are on their side, because right now, they have done nothing to show the american people that they're on their side. stephanie: by the way, the president welcomed them to do that. he acknowledged this was based on romney's plan in massachusetts from republicans. >> if you want, you can call it romney care or dole care. stephanie: heritage care. 48 minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show."

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♪ ♪ stephanie: 52 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-1-2. >> let me call my wife and see if she's ok with that. baby come and get it. i'm thinking no. stephanie: i mentioned earlier, jimmy got turtle trouble. mitch mcconnell's campaign manager said he's holding his nose for two years working for him, because it's all for and, it's all for you, and. >> it's all for you, damian. stephanie: political ads is currently being tea bagged by matt devin, ahead by one point in the latest poll, and obama.

stephanie: the tea bagger's the one that told him to be a man, ironically. now he's the turtle man. >> the doctor told mcconnell that he had a kidney stone, he'd refuse to pass it! >> it's beneath the dignity of the office he holds. i'm asking him to be a man, run on his record. ♪ ♪ >> what the american people need right now isn't electoral fairness. ♪ know you're a man >> turtle. ♪ ♪ >> americans want 3.4 million to build a 13-foot long turtle. ♪ ♪

>> our top political priority should be to deny president obama a second term. for those of us who spent a lot of time on this issue, it's our obligation to fight this fight. ♪ stephanie: thank you, sir. ♪ fugelsang ♪ fugelsang ♪ fugelsang ♪ fugelsang stephanie: i just watched a clip of you and confirmed that you are smart and handsome and romantic and startlingly beautiful. >> i steal most of my lines from my old tapes. i don't know which clip you saw. stephanie: you interviewing fitzgerald. >> she came on and we did a

one-on-one. we had her on two shows. stephanie: you are once again, startlingly beautiful. >> we had dick cavett on the other night and a few big surprises for the final week of shows. shelly wright will be with us. [ applause ] stephanie: who are ray. you heard that, you saw the caught on tape guy, mitch mcconnell. caller: oh, yeah, it's all for rapid. stephanie: i think you are the first one who made the damian reference on the paul. caller: like i said before, the douche doesn't fall far from the bag. >> it's going to be amazing seeing newt gingrich hitching his bag as to rand paul. he is in a really comfy bubble. it's only going to get uglier as more people learn about him. stephanie: our favorite thing we learned this week, our friend

met him and she said he's about as tall as she is, 5'2" in heels. we were saying we would love for and movies, because they're all upset about the hillary movie. we don't know who would be available. caller susan says andy dick. caller: i want to see a rand paul movie, the first time he practices eye surgery without a license. stephanie: with a rusty spoon. caller: i can't wait to see and explain again by the civil rights act was flawed and go to an all black college and say he loves it. stephanie: we were laughing earlier, because we were offered ron paul and we said yes and got a very terse note saying he will not be appearing on your program. caller: ron paul's been on your show before. stephanie: yes! i don't know what could have gone wrong. caller: i would love to interview ron paul. stephanie: shelly calls him

crazy captain liberty. i don't know. caller: even a broken watch is right twice a day, but not in sane twice a day. i'll give rand paul a lot of credit. he's been more liberal than the democratic, but when he's wrong, he's wrong. stephanie: perhaps he was afraid i would bring up the racist news letters. >> he didn't write them. stephanie: how he was supposed to know what's in the ron paul news letter. >> we're too busy being responsible. the other thing that's going to be really interesting is, i've heard from multiple sources that he was at an event with a bunch of evangelical leaders where he assured them he didn't ever want to make can bass legal. that's going to lose him the gary johnson libertarians.

♪ theme stephanie: paging nurse jacki. jacki: i was going to finds up if john showed up early because he knew it was our last pants-free friday. stephanie: i'm guessing yes. we had a caller talking about how howard dean was talking about death panels. jacki: that sounds likely. stephanie: well, i know, except we just got senate democrats jump on bandwagon, a number of lawmakers cozying up to the death panel idea, charminging

that the cost cutting board will indeed hurt people on medicare, because they're all running for reelection. >> in purple districts. jacki: send it to me. i guarantee you, it was written by somebody -- send it to me. >> it was in mother jones. jacki: send it to me. stephanie: we will check in with you later in the hour. jacki: i don't approve it until i read it myself. stephanie: here she is in the current news center, jacki sheckner. jacki: good morning, a raging wildfire called the silver fire continues to spread here in southern california this morning. senator barbara bachner took a tour yesterday and said it's a combination of climate change and budget cuts making it more difficult for people to fight these wildfires. >> i can tell you right now we need for firefighters and the kits made across the board

resulted in fewer locally hired firefighters. >> the blaze has consumed 14,000 acres and destroyed 26 homes and one commercial building. four firefighters and one civilian have been injured. the fire which started wednesday afternoon and spread quickly is now 20% contained. fire officials expect the flames to move eastward fueled by western winds. >> heading so jerusalem next week, secretary of state john kerry gap the conversation in washington late last month. israel, the palestinian authority and u.s. have agreed to participate in nine months of negotiation trying to set up an agreement setting up an independent palestinian state alongside israel. they plan to hold another session in jheriko.

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fugelsang. >> good morning, children. great to be with you on our final friday. stephanie: next thursday is all of hour last day on current. virgin airlines is looking for stand ups on flights. it announced it will offer live stand up acts from heathrow to manchester and edinborough. >> tip your pilot, throw the peanuts. stephanie: shortly before each flight, meaning passengers won't know if they've been chosen to participate until just before they board. >> will it be russell brand? stephanie: i'll take the layover, i'm not getting on the russell brand flight. john fugelsang, we could do the act on the plane on the flight to the show and then the show. >> we've had dressing rooms of that size when we run it.

i want to keep my headphones, otherwise it will be terrific. some people might be running for the air lock, but... stephanie: all right, let's go to dana in maryland, you're on with john. hello. caller: hi, good morning, everybody. >> good morning. stephanie: extra stress. caller: i have walking pneumonia, i'm not trying to flirt. >> that's what you say. caller: sounding this -- i know, i'm lying through my teeth. so i just wanted to say about rand paul, you know, is it going to get testy during interviews, don't hang out with people who wear spiter man costumes with confederate flags. if they're going to get testy and upset and people think you're a racist because you are, this is who you associated with, this is who your father associated with. captain somebody, but he's getting testy in these interviews and swearing in the interviews. i always thought they had to be sort of humble, and, you know,

friendly. southern avenger. stephanie: there it is. by the way, this just in, ed from pennsylvania reminds us those are maggots on top of ron paul's head. they're trying to get at matter inside. >> that's very insulting to that poor ewok that died there. stephanie: john in indiana, hello. caller: good morning, stephanie. how are you doing this morning? stephanie: good morning, go ahead. caller: very good, we're getting a 23-year-old who has just become politically conscious himself. you'll have to forgive me if i minutes my words new that's all right. caller: i wanted to respond to the conservative who made the remarks about howard dean as far as the health care in this country. i am the son of two health care professionals, one being a physician. we currently live in a system where there are plenty of individuals unfortunately who

belong to the low income or no income demographic who are receiving service and don't have money to pay. i guess physicians are receiving compensation that they may or may not be due. if we expend health care, doesn't it seem that physicians will be more likely to receive their due? stephanie: maybe i'm missing your point. say that one more time. caller: sure. we live, currently, there are individuals who are not covered by insurance, low income, no income that are receiving surgeries, whether most likely live saving and have no money to pay physicians, so physicians aren't receiving the money due to them for doing their work, right? are you people that go to an emergency room and don't have health care. caller: yes. stephanie: right. ok, so what's your point? caller: i mean if we expand the insurance pool, under obamacare,

you know, physicians would be more dully compensated. his point being tipped it correctly that under obamacare, physicians won't be compensated, might stop performing services. >> because they're not going to get paid for their work. caller: right. that was his point. >> howard dean's point? caller: no, the gentleman. stephanie: the guy that called. stephanie: this is and we'll get, hopefully jacki will call in. this is from mother jones, john. this is what the caller was talking about. in 2009, sarah palin, death panels, blah blah blah, band of bureaucrats would decide whether old americans were worthy of medical care. it turned out to be a figment of her imagination, but some of claiming that people on medicare will be hurt. it would limit care for medicare

patients, even though the health care allow said it would have to affect doctor reimbursement rates, not patient care. >> it's reminisce sentence of job boehner saying if your premiums go up under obamacare, be sure to blame obama and not your insurance company. stephanie: exactly. howard dean wrote a piece in the wall street journal, calling for repeal of the cost cutting board because he wrote it would have the effect of rations care by making it hard for doctors to make money from medicare. it should be pointed out that dean has worked for a d.c. lobbying term which would see profits cut with obamacare. >> nurse jacki joins us now. jacki: good morning. >> sounds like your dander is up. >> i'm frustrated. this is a short sightedness that we have sometimes. i sent my notice off to my old

campaign manager and said what is dean doing here. there are parts of the act that we don't like and parts that need to be adjusted over time, but coming out now and slamming part of the affordable care act that allows republicans to them glom on to it is such a bad strategy. i understand what he's saying, yes, that he does do some lobbying, so that probably plays do this, too, but dean has a long history of being a good progressive. i just don't understand the point right now of being yeah, there's great stuff, but by the way, let me give you a half of an op ed. >> howard dean is a position, is he just about looking out for his own at a time when we're supposed to be looking out for the americans that are uninsured. he brought a closer form of single pair to vermont, but he's not advocating that now. jacki: in this op ed in the wall street journal, he talks about how regulating payment methods

didn't work in vermont. i understand what he's saying, there are other ways to cost control, this is not the best way, but he's not saying it in a way that helps the cause. what he needs to do is say here, this is why we need a public option or there are more effective ways in bringing down costs. >> you're exactly right. if he said that, i would say you're mounting a credible progressive opposition to hillary's campaign. i'm proud that we've gone this long without making screen jokes. stephanie: nurse jacki is saying that she's. >> disappointed. jacki: mother jones points out that the law does not allow for a cut to patient care, this is a case of democrats and republicans not reading the law. you cannot cut patient care. you to have actually cut profit or payment before you cut, you can't cut patient care. stephanie: i guess our caller

was saying that then doctors would refuse to do those procedures if they aren't getting enough of a reimbursement. jacki: not the doctors i know. >> they won't get rich off of your disease. jacki: i understand doctors don't want to make less money. it's hard to argue when a doctor makes $600,000 a year that you're going to cut down to $400,000 a year, given the alternative is something dying. >> my yacht needs new sky lights, jacki. jacki: any garage only holds three cars, not four. >> a doctor makes less money when his patient pool dies off because they didn't get care. jacki: it actually pace as opposed to private insurance companies, which end up forcing you to spend more time on paperwork and bureaucracy and eventually decide they are not going to pay you. stephanie: i'm going to lock you down. see, i did that right. steve in delaware, you're on with jacki.

go ahead. hello, steve. caller: hey, stephanie. my wife works at a nursing home and basically does the books. i want to explain to you what they're already doing. to reduce reimbursements for practitioners in nursing homes, they are not m.d.'s, but physical therapists and their assistants and that type of work, and then they're using that to pay for for-profit health insurance. that's what's crazy. they're already losing employees, because they're a smaller outfit and they can't afford, you know, to make up the overhead elsewhere to some of the bigger places, but that is already happening just in discussion that is came through medicare. this whole for-profit health insurance thing is bad. stephanie: yes. caller: and then we subsidize it on the back of the people who

work the profession, not doctors. stephanie: he raises a good point. jacki: you mentioned earlier, blame the people who are responsible, blame the bad employers who don't want to offer health insurance. blame the insurance companies who are jacking up rates to they can make a bigger profit margin and buy back their own stock. let's blame the people who are responsible for these things. the hospital charging $100 for a bandaid. congressional democrats are just trying to get you affordable health care. caller:ster, i just wanted to correct the guy who called and heard howard dean in his own voice say that he didn't like obamacare. howard dean has an issue with one provision which could be changed. he loves and is supporting obamacare. the opponents are terrified that it will work, that's why they're fighting to stop it. if they thought it wasn't going

to work, they'd let it fail. stephanie: sometimes people have the i don't know, they have the proclivity to kind of, they summarize in their own words. i heard howard dean say hitler was right. what? i don't think howard dean said that. >> he was far right. it's not exactly like immigration policy tearing the entire democratic party apart and putting a wedge there. this is a point of a plan that everybody agrees on. stephanie: nurse jacki, thank you. jacki: my pleasure. >> you rock! stephanie: and that, too. in addition. [ growling ] ♪ ♪

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going to ride this out, lose and go away. things are going well for governor spitzer. his t.v. commercials remind you why people liked eliot spitzer in the first place. stephanie: it reminded me when i saw this story, your girlfriend, less bit morgan. j.p. morgan chase admits it faces inquiries in the meltdown. that's the thing. he was really, he really was the sheriff, right? >> and that's why he was taken out. i'm not going to defend what eliot did, we all know it was wrong. he visited prostitution rings

we're seeing he was taken down using the patriot act. he was going after wall street crime and the bush administration used the patriot act to take him out for his personal life that was an exact repeat of what they did to clinton, but it worked. they went looking into his finances to see if he was crooked, he wasn't, so they went after his private sex life. stephanie: the other thing that i find most unforgivable about anthony wiener is the vision of sidney leathers told howard stern that she wants to have hate sex with palin, because she deserves it. >> oh, my god. stephanie: i don't know what to say about that. >> what people don't like about anthony wiener, what's worse than going to prostitutes is

creepy on line, sending a picture of your junk. if you have a woman that wants that picture, headache on to her. >> he runs around like he is still entitled to being mayor of new york. no, you screwed up once and then again. >> this week what he did when he was at a forum and one of his republican challengers came up to him and they had an altercation. he called him grandpa at an aarp event. i mean, is there any greater indication you might not have the temperament for this job. stephanie: he was very poll light after orgasm. he said thank you. >> thank you. >> this was said by a woman who never met him in person, he was very poll light after orgasm? stephanie: right, i'm trying to

picture that. thanks. [ applause ] stephanie: at least he has one redeeming quality, he's poll light. >> i'm turned off by the way the media is treating his wife. she stayed with him because of their kid and i respect that. stephanie: i've said the same. chris christie, he's way ahead in the latest poll. you saw this. >> yes. stephanie: salon says his one problem, conservatives hate him. he's republicans least favorite candidate. he's the farthest ahead in this early polling, right? >> it would be ironic if it wasn't predictable, gyp sufficient hate for muslims, guys, marijuana and climate change science. he does not pass the tea party, period. stephanie: salon points that out. one particularly hate is

standing up to vier relevant islam phobia. that will take him down. >> to stand with the president for taking care of his own state after a natural disaster. i can't wait for tornadoes or floods to hit the great state of kentucky and rand paul telling constituents, don't worry, i'll keep you safe from government aid. stephanie: the latest poll says 21% of republicans would vote for christie but when asked who they would least want to be the nominee, they said christie. they've got to figure out this internal war. >> it's going to be so much fun to watch, because christie is running and could probably be the biggest threat to hillary clinton. republicans will never let that happen. >> ann coulter was right. >> she's cut him loose now. ann coulter, he's dead to her now. stephanie: the ironic thing is that christie will actually be a

very conservative president. it will be interesting to see how the primary plays out. >> it's going to be so much fun, like the last time but with i.q.'s. seeing previs, which every man should get his checked after age 50, threaten higher ratings by not carrying a republican debate shows how desperate they are. they don't want to have that many debates. the more they have, the more embarrassing it is for the party, but these guys want to go on t.v. there's going to be debates whether rice likes them or not. stephanie: 29 minutes after the hour, we're right back with john fugelsang on the "stephanie miller show."

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they had a teaser on for the newscast at 11:30. what they said specifically was ok, there's going to be an obama nightmare. obamacare is going to cause the doctors, local doctors are going to change their hours. i want to make sure i remember this correctly. change their hours, turn patients away and close their doors. >> and stop giving medicine. caller: honestly, this is what the teaser said for the newscast. >> just going to shoot them on sight. caller: then of course i watch the actual newscast, and on the newscast, it's like the third feature, and they be they go and they say something like well, according to this survey, 45% of doctors because of the increased paperwork from obamacare, and also local state laws have decided they may close their doors or change their hours.

you know, but the local news does this all the time down here, and isn't there no way. stephanie: that's what the local news always does. they say something really startling and say film at 11:00. >> will kill you! or maybe just your refrigerator. >> latino man makes you turn, local news. stephanie: anytime you knock on your doctors office door, dick cheney's going to shoot you in the face. film at 11:00. >> liz cheney was elected to the lucky sperm club. the american people want new blood, but i'm not done with it yet, it's my job. my daddy will shoot you in the face. the thing about the health care system, they feel obamacare is removing people on the titanic

and putting them on another sinking ship. it's better. no country in the world and this is what i say to all my obamacare family and loved ones, the very notion of making an employer pay for someone's health care is nuts to the rest of the world. the notion of having insurance companies making profits off of people's poor health is absurd to the rest of the world. in germany, if you make under $100,000, you're covered on their medicare. once you make more, you buy your own private plan. when you're older, boom, you're back on the state plan. it's great, it works and no one goes bankrupt over inability to pay health care costs.

that's the number one cause of bankruptcy in this country. stephanie: evelyn in new jersey, hello, evelyn. caller: hi. stephanie: hi be go ahead. caller: ok, you said talking about chris christie and saying that he's up in the polls and everything like that, i'm like wondering where are they taking these surveys, because he's not that well-liked in new jersey. i'm trying to figure out why is he up in the polls. stephanie: i think it's among represents. >> nationwide. caller: oh, nationwide. >> you know it took a while getting to know george bush how dopey he was. caller: he's horrible. he's rude. he don't have respect for people. he dismisses people, he gave

money, gave money to the new casino, a tack break when it wasn't even open so they could finish building. stephanie: evelyn, i said that a long time ago. john, it's amazing how the media even, like just takes pure rudeness and says oh, this is so refreshing and bold and courageous. >> and college rental and hostile and think that women who terminate pregnancies ought to go to jail. he single handily killed a tunnel from jersey to manhattan that would have created jobs and he killed it, even though obama would have helped him with the funding. >> that just shows he has moxie. he could have put up a toll booth and shaved off his state's deficit. do you know how tough it is to get out of the city? do you know how many more tunnels we need? he killed it. the guy is crazy.

stephanie: by the by, eleanor clift. stephanie: no, she's right. she writes quietly getting ready for 2016. she said remember him, paul ryan is getting ready for 2016. oh, remember the magic when mitt romney picked that up? >> hi, everybody. i've become a man. >> telling eddie munster to his running mate. ♪ ♪ stephanie: thank you. >> paul ryan voted for tarp,

medicare expansion, no child left behind. both stimuluses, the iraq war and he hates government spending. stephanie: yeah, exactly. this is interesting, when eleanor writes, there is a united party at war with itself. that is the republican party. the answer might be paul ryan. that's going to be their fresh new idea for 2016. >> basically, i think they're describing he knows how to flip-flop well which means he might have learned from mittens. with the republican leadership in disarray, he has been quiet for most of the year. his careful approach can be seen as laying the groundwork for 2016. >> rebranding. he's rebranding himself as the republican who cares about poverty and wants to get to the

core roots. you can't stay a republican once you know that. you can't care about poverty and claim that 30 years of reagan economics trickling down has worked. go outside and look around you. it has not worked. stephanie: we had reverend wallis on this morning. he said paul ryan called him, he wrote this greet piece about immigration reform, made a biblical piece for it. he said ryan is quietly pushing for immigration reform. he favors a piecemeal approach. he's trying to have it every way. >> he's not soulless. he's not a mitch mcconnell with a piece of coal for a heart. he was a nice catholic boy, lost his dad at an early age. he cares about people but is married to the ideology. he's going to break away from it, you can't worship jesus and

and at the same time. stephanie: and is still a darling to republicans. ryan gets the warmest reception of any candidate from gop voters. he has a 68-degree temperature reading. >> hot, hot, hot. stephanie: he seems to be betting a the tea party is peaking and will fade. what do you think, john? >> i think that paul ryan will be -- i think the immigration debate has been the best symbol of how the gop is going to eat its own so much they ought to call it the doer party. marco rubio pushed so hard through the winter and spring to get this deal worked out. he was the poster boy for it, saying if we don't get 60% of the latino vote, we don't get the white house. the senate actually passed this bill. i think it's crap, but it's a start. you're assuming that people who have been living in this country for years at undocumented workers making below minimum

wage are able to pay the fines to get citizenship, but it's a start. you got folks down sought and in the mid we have the who don't have the illegal workers in their communities they care about campaigning against mexicans to get votes. you think lindsey graham cares about immigration reform. you see marco rubio trying to win the party back. they were at war with each other on this. they may run against members connection and win lots of election he is and congressional districts, but they can kiss the white house goodbye for a good while. stephanie: back with the remaining moments on the "stephanie miller show."

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tom jones is kicking himself for not thinking of that in the 1970's. >> that's not a song you listen to for the lyrics. it's a great song. >> you the hottest witch in this club, he blows smoke into a girl's face. >> i've never seen the video. >> watch the mylar balloons and see what they spell out in the video. he started out with nothing, oh, no, he started out wealthy, i forgot. >> daddy wrote him this song so you can get rich. >> he surrounded himself with good people, much like stephanie does. >> that's right, stephanie is a no-talent, but she has you guys.

stephanie: wait a minute! why didn't i think of this. [ laughter ] >> you know, it's a good song. it is, you can't change that. it's a good song. stephanie: scott in chicago, you're on the "stephanie miller show." hi, scott. caller: hi, stephanie, love you guys. stephanie: thank you. caller: i have a question. what does the class offer that i'm missing. [ laughter ] >> you sit on a bike and move your feet real fast, that's it. >> i think it's a community. i've become a bike rider in new york. i got one last month in a ride to work every day now. i think it's the community, having a class to go to motivates people to get out of their house and go be somewhere at a certain time and exercise. >> they have all kinds of slogans, that pettiness is weakness leaving the body.

stephanie: it's culture. >> like a cross dress thing going on, it's just a cult. stephanie: i like to pretend i'm the wicked witch of the west on my bicycle. they blurt slogans at you that make no sense if you were not in that state. ♪ stephanie: steve in california, you're on the "stephanie miller show" with john. hello, steve. caller: hello? stephanie: hello, steve, go ahead. caller: oh, hi. i just wanted to mention something about obamacare. i don't know if you remember a gentleman named wendell potter. he was former vice president of public relations for one of the big insurance firms. stephanie: right. caller: i think his name was cigna. he made a comment over the controversy of obama care. he said it would never be repealed or ruled unconstitutional. talk show hosts were stunned. why would that happen.

he said because the insurance companies know obamacare is the best deal they're ever going to get from the federal government for health care, and so they backed off. i wasn't surprised at all when roberts was the dissenting vote against overturning it. stephanie: yeah, because he's pro business. >> mr. potter nothing but a warped, frustrated old man. stephanie: he's a good mr. potter. >> he's done my show several times new by the way, lindsey lohan, i'm required to do little rehab stories. she's dating a guy she met in rehab. i think that's supposed to be a no-no. she had a lover in rehab, a 23-year-old male patient. >> i don't think you're supposed to have relations in rehab. stephanie: the ever comes to light a day after it was discovered chaka kahn was in

rehab and left because she couldn't take lindsey's diva behavior. stephanie: i wonder if they had a say it a few times. roll call for the meeting. chaka kahn. chaka kahn. chaka kahn. chaka kahn. chaka kahn. chaka kahn. >> she had other hits, you know. chaka kahn. chaka kahn. i'm going to beat that joke into the ground. here's something, evil knievel's son went on a drunken rampage in his motor home. >> did he try to jump a river in

his motor home? stephanie: probably a little easier on the motorcycle, trying to jump the grand was not i don't know in a motor home. oops! >> well, this is horrible, a heartless crook ripped off james gandolfini after his death out of his motel room. tony s soprano would have killed him for that. that was bad. ♪ stephanie: john fugelsang, you brought up the hillary movie. chris says he thinks they should not be doing them. i say why not. >> why shouldn't they. chris, if a network has a make a profit and she's the most popular woman in the world for 12 years in a row, why wouldn't they do it. >> that's going to remind voters of all of her warts, too. >> it's not going to stop her from getting elected.

stephanie: i think previs is threatening the network. >> he should know that reminding people of hillary's warts would only help the republican party. he's only doing this because he wants to have less debates. he knows it's a killer for his party. stephanie: that's exactly it. he doesn't want debates anywhere. >> they want to have them all on fox, which is seen stupider. if they are all on fox, steph and this is why i pray he gets his way. if most debates are in the fox, they're going to be in the bubble times 10. there's a much greater chance they'd say stupid stuff they never would on cnn or nbc. stephanie: going out of business sale on current television network. >> only four shows left. mario cuomo on monday. stephanie: see you monday, john. see you monday on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ ♪

>>why do you do this? what compels you to write every intricate detail of your trial on the wall? >>my inclination to write it on the wall was when i get found not guilty, you know have ultimately down here not guilty day whatever and then put up here you know "not guilty" you know it's possible. you know and just leave it here for other people to see that the capital case was won.